Red Shift From The Big Bang

The light from 13.7 billion years ago gives maximum red shift. So the maximum theoretical distance from which we can detect light with a positive red shift is 13.7 billion light years. That is the distance length of light waves are stretched out and approach infinite length. At the same time astronomers tell us the age of the universe is 13.7 billion years. Why this coincidence that the two values are the same? Why should the maximum red shift give us the age of the universe? Why should a well-documented physical property of light limit the size of the universe.

Ahah! The red shift is not a physical property of light, say human scientists. It is a cosmological velocity; 13.7 billion years ago, the envelop of the universe started expanding from the primordial atom. Since we can only see objects at distances less than 13.7 billion light years, that must be the age of the universe. Circular reasoning?

The fact that we cannot see farther back than 13.7 billion year doesn’t necessarily mean no universe existed before then. The universe might very well, and probably does, go on forever. The universe is probably infinite.

Old galaxies seen in a “young” universe show there has not been enough time for a Big Bang to do its stuff. The deepest look yet into the universe, as viewed by NASA’s Spitzer Space Telescope, shows a collection of elliptical galaxies that look remarkably similar to the much older present-day galaxy clusters (See “A z=1.82 Analog of Local Ultra-massive Elliptical Galaxies”, Momcheva, et al; Astro Phys J, 11/10/09). The age of the blue cluster is estimated to be only 2.8 billion years after the Big Bang, according to Ivelina Momcheva.

Another example of an old giant elliptical galaxy that is too mature to be in a young universe is described by Matsato Onodera. Based on images acquired by the Subaru Telescope, the galaxy is determined to be 10 billion light years from Earth. (See “A Spitzer-Selected Galaxy Cluster at z=1.62”, Onodera et al. 2010, Astrophysical Journal Letters, Volume 715, pp. L6-L11).

Both of the scientific reports point out that two to three billion years from the birth of the universe is not enough time for such a complex structures to be built by current stellar/galactic theories. Old galaxies in the cradle of the universe? The implication is plainly that we do not see a young universe 11 billion years ago. We see that the universe’s age as measured by the most distant galaxies is the same as here and now: infinite. A clear contradiction to the Big Bang Theory.

If true, then the red shift must have some other interpretation ~ a physical property of light as it crosses the billions of light years. No, don’t say tired light. Say light that is red shifted by physical properties of the intervening space. Just because we cannot name the properties does not mean that such properties don’t exist.

My Age?

Yes, Jack, my tribe has been flying around the galaxies for billions of years. So how old am I?

No, Caroline. I don't mind telling my age. This might be an issue with some of your gender on Earth, but I am fine with telling you that I emerged from my planetary egg 90 million years ago.

Yes, Jack. In human terms I am very old, but young for a Cosmic Swan. Many members of my tribe live over a billion years. We have our predators. The worst are the ice dragons that live in dense atmospheres of gas giant planets.

I don't understand why you think my age is impossible. The infinite universe is also infinite in time -- not as your Big Bang Mythological story tells you. Your race has recently run down a dark lane of nebulosity, believing that the light you see from distant galaxies undergoes no change as it snakes its way through space. When your scientists determine that a photon from a distant galaxy has lost energy, has its spectrum shifted toward the red, they assume the explanation that the galaxy is flying away. And the farther away is the galaxy, the more it is red shifted. So everything they see must be flying away from the Earth and accelerating according to its distance. What a strange universe they describe. At some distant time all the galaxies would be spread out to infinity. They have invented Dark Energy, Dark Matter, and complex explanations for what drives the accelerating expansion. Every time they find a contradiction, they must add more epicycles to the Big Bang Model.

Why do stars attain ages that seem to approximate the age of the universe? Galaxies are built of stars so they must be a lot older. Why have your scientists not seen primitive galaxies at the greatest distances? The deeper they look, the more of the same they see. Since Quasars have large red shifts, they assume that they are at the "edge" of the universe. They are actually very very dense material recently ejected from the core of a galaxy, from the jet emitted by a Black Hole. Black Holes evolve from Quasars that spin out from the mother galaxy to attract and soak up intergalactic material to form new galaxies.

Of course there is a better explanation, Caroline. The space that I fly through is not empty. I could not survive if it were. Much of the stuff I inhale to give me energy, to feed the blue star in my heart, takes energy away from photons as they fly. The hot plasma that fills most regions of space takes energy from photons. The abundant little iron whiskers take a little energy from many photons they encounter. I swim through the ebb and flow of gravity fields that steal a little energy from photons. I do not know all the reasons why photons lose energy, but I know that they do, because I have met other Cosmic Swans that have sailed farther than the 13.7 billion light years that your scientists call the size of the universe.

Yes, it is not just an odd coincidence that your scientists say the universe is 13.7 billion years old and it is 13.7 light years in radius. It is incorrect. The size of the universe is infinite and it takes a photon emitted from a star 13.7 billion years of travel to be robbed of all its energy through encounters with plasma, whiskers, and other robbers.

I swim through the Cosmic Microwave background radiation. How does it prove there was a Big Bang that created the universe? Its energy spectrum is better explained as the stable energy levels and variations achieved after hundreds of billions of years of recycling of energy and mass through galactic growth, stellar emissions, photon absorption by galactic dust, whiskers, plasmas, quasar ejections by galactic jets, galactic formations and evolutions, stellar novae gas and debris productions, and on and on.

No, not energy is lost or gained. No mass is lost or gained. They keep recycling on and on forever. Only one parameter changes consistently -- the level of understanding, incite, creativity, and freedom of thought of beings such as we -- Cosmic Swans, Humans, and all other sentient beings that swim through this wonderful open and infinite deep.